Cloning means making full copy of ISN files from original DME and copy it over to use DME, So what happens if the ISN files are corrupted and you just copied it over to the other DMEare the pins damaged on the original DME ,,,or are the connection on the harness damage,,,,we just had a car last mouth where the harness was damaged for the fuel injector signals causing fuel to dump,,,the harness was damaged on the connector for the DME,,,you might have to perform OHM test on the harness to make sure the harness and connections are good. Its hard to say without performing some test with a diagnostic equipment. Yes you need to buy the camshaft locking tools,,,,the timing will slip,,,,you need a t-stat also,,,,the charge pressure fault may be due to the vanos unit,,,,the trailer issue is a random fault,,,,hope this helps. procedure outlined below. Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. I assume the tensioner is operated by oil pressure and its normal to feel some slack when the engine is not running? 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. Thank You very much for the reply !! Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: No I dont think it is covered,,,and what lifetime of the vehicle are you talking about. The engine is running rough at idle. Thats important to know for later. Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. I took it to the dealership for a diagnostic test and check-up. Thank you. and it seems like they are about to settle this case on 9/2/2020. Is there possible timing not to be correct on the intake vanos unit?! It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). for this problem there is a software update available. It had deteriorated and failed. 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank sprocket. Can the timing chain issue be identified through scoping? Thanks. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still ISTA says these errors: Rather it is no cost extended warranty in Canada. This could be a fuel issue,,,but BMW is not saying anything about the problem. But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. Thank you in advance. I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. Hi. BMW says I caused engine cease. Or do you think its just possible plastic bits of junk in the sump pump pick up? This way I dont have to set up any timing if I do it one at the time. Fingers crossed!! Thanks for this. My engine is N52 Example: P1055 Hex Codes are typically given by more advanced scanners. Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. Hopefully it will prove to be a non issue. I remove the spark plugs all 4 complete soaked and i also remove the Dinan piggy back complete and connect harness direct to DME I also replace the DME with use one [CLONE] still no start but i notice when i crack one of the injector line the fuel pressure is very low which normal be busting out the lines, fuel pump shaft is not broken and no DTC. Page 3 of 4 If so, can i buy the warranty for a used car now? Well, you could, but it's a slim chance you get the length of the rod exactly right. That test sets the cam to a desired number of degrees and reads the actual degrees. Seems like this is on the list. check got vanos dtc come to relies i switch the cam gears when i install them so i correct it after veh cranks but no start check timming over like 3 time it good. Should I proactively replace the timing chain tensioner, part number 11318685091 (replaces part number 11317567680)? Cost for the strap $7.49. 133E10 -permanent valvetronic system: deactivated, adjustment fault too frequent F25 Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: So far I reset it and it's gone and drove it like 30 miles but kinda worried . (with CAS) CDA904 No message Status of trailer, 0X2e4 DME receiver AHM transmitter. The oil was black though. and if necessary, also I dont think they will take your picture as evidence,,,,but you could give it a try it wouldnt hurt, Hello- three fault codes are So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? But one of the passages might have had some trash in it. I dont know if failing VANOS system should give any data to computer and should show somekind bad data or shouldnt show anything. The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. The car has 103,000 miles. Thanks again. Do you think is this something related to eccentric shaft sensor? Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. and as necessary F34 Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i and its in the list. Maybe I should replace them? 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. Do not replace any parts. So I was just under by kilometers and by time (Delivery was Aug 2012). but after 3-4 minutes these fault codes with a message -Drivetrain problem comes in the display. Unfortunately for me, I was not informed about an extended free warrantee on the chain and guides, BMW kept it quiet. Hi Im wondering do I need to have a 7/70 warranty to get BMW cover for this problem? Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. 120308 charge air pressure 130E20 Jake 6,848 satisfied customers I replaced my timing chain and oil chain on my 2012 BMW carlosbosch satisfied customers Daniel The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. Hi, Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164466 Mfg#: 11377603979KT5 Qty: Availability: In Stock $243.84 Add to Cart Free Shipping on orders $59 and up Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164462 Mfg#: Specific eligible repairs may also be covered by the terms of the Federal, State or BMW Emissions No turnover on start at all. F10 As there is a known TSB and the solenoid is VVT. Now getting error 131501. I cannot seize why the 320i has the issue however 220i should be similar engine N20 and not listed is it because of different KWH or what ? Its hard to say what the problem is with out hearing and driving the car,,,,I dont think the noise is timing chain because that makes a whining noise,,,the only leak could be a exhaust leak but you said the steering also shakes,,,have you had the tires and rims checked make sure rims are not bent,,,also check the rear transmission mount make sure they are not cracked or broken,,,also check the drive belt tensioner could be a problem. Hello BMW Technician, I have a 2011 BMW 535i with N55 engine. cover and expose some wires and by moving around stuff they was rubbing together and i had the battery connect at that time too.need some help please thank in advance, Ok,,,,you said you smell gas and black smoke out of the exhaust, and you have wiring harness damage to Dinan piggy back,,,I would think this is your problem the harness is damaged and can be causing your problem with the fuel injectors dumping to much fuel into the engine,,,you can remove the spark plugs and see if they are fuel soaked to verify this problem,,,,I dont know if you can remove the Dinan piggy back and put it back to stock.,,,I hope this helps, Update on my car was other human error wrong timing was locking the camshaft with lobs facing down, i correct it and veh stated up right away..THANKS for taking time to assess me. Thanks! The cost of diagnosing the P052B BMW code is 1.0 hour of labor. reference point is the same? 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. What would happen if I resent the adaptations with increment wheel/. 2. F31 its really a shame that BMW does not step up. It would get to 17% and quit. Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. and Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. still the same problem. Usually the Vanos units lock in its default position when engine is turned off. This seems correct, but I'm looking to avoid removing the valve cover. Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Perform a vehicle test. 2: 12A701 Catalytic converter downstream oxygen sensor, electrical fault: circuit short to battery (+) I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. Your email address will not be published. The BMW N20 is a 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine produced from 2011-2017, and was BMW's replacement for the naturally aspirated 3.0L 6-cylinder N52/N53 engines. Click on the Can the N20 Vanos valve be replaced through the actuator hole without removing the valve cover and locking the cams? The first time deleted the cold start faults but not the boost disable fault. The engine start ok. no misfiring. This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up everything in the vehicle works extremely well. 2D56 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached I would go to the dealer and have the engine scanned to see what fault came up,,,better to be safe then sorry. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: Ok you have a couple of things going on here,,,,that fault code just ignore,,,that fault code is a bogus fault some kind of software bug,,,,,ok you start stop function not working I dont know without looking at the car,,,,now the car shutting off while driving sound like the fuel pump and the fuel pump relay EKPS module is going bad,,,,I would have those checked out next time. Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle 130304 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, camshaft jammed The details of the settlement if approved by court will extend timing chain and oil pump drive chain to 8 years/100000 miles(which ever comes first). The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. Bringing the BMW community together. I would like the tackle the Vanos issue first and go from there. Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. charger. If the fault code for camshaft position sensor goes away or swaps position from intake to exhaust (or vice versa), the fault code is being caused by the VANOS solenoid. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ASE and BMW Master Certified Technician 09-28-2017, 07:33 PM #6 Ramos8553 Member Join Date Sep 2017 I checked the timing chain, it looks fine. It looks like the car is on this recall list. I appreciate your help. It currently has 165,000 km without any chain problems. Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? I've tested the soleniods and they are both good. Yes, for mine BMW was due to a fault to the timing chain tensioner. The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. I saw a video where the chap replaced it without the locks and I thought it was an easy DIY. SHAME ON BMW!!!!! There can typically be a ton of different. Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? I have a 2013 528xi. Apr 14, 2022 BMW F30 328i 2013 N20 engine "Drivetrain malfunction etc" comes on occasionally. I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve and clean it? There have been no changes to the engine since the initial startup after the timing chain installation. 108f01 2011 BMW 535i [0.00] 535i drivertrain malfunction. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. Hi there I have a 2013 BMW f30 320 d EFF engine N47 T EUR model N47D20O1 production date 25/03/2013 ,does this engine have timing chain problems 175.000 Kilometers. I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. One or more of the following faults is stored in the Im getting error codes 120408 Charging Pressure Control: Switched off. Ive been told by dealership that timing chain is tight and has passed their test. It gave the code 2D61 VANOS Outlet control, position not reached. Thank you, Rev match I say problem. Yesterday I did get all the fault codes cleared. Also camshaft sensors also does not give any data to DME. If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing Required fields are marked *. One customer describe his 2013 BMW F18 525Li with 61000km mileage got trouble.The car engine warning light on and central display "Transmission malfunction".But it can start engine and accelerate normally.More repair cases about BMW,please check here:BMW Trouble Repair Use BMW ISID to diagnose,got trouble code as below: Fault Code: 135401 Fault Explanation: Valvetronic: overloaded which consists of the last 7 digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). What are related problems? The only fault was still the boost disable fault. Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. He indicated it was a timing chain waiting to fail- do you agree? Please help! 130f11 130308 the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 also it has a start stall initially. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: I am thinking switching vanos solenoids and see result. The fuel pump tank pressure is good when i check but when i read the data for fuel rail its very low and drop right back to 0.. I don't drive the car very aggressively, however i noticed that it didn't pull as hard as it used to a couple of days leading to the drivetrain malfunction. Page 2 of 4 You can't just bolt it up and clear the fault. You have to have a special oil pressure gauge and you remove the oil pressure sensor and screw it in to the engine to check pressure,,,,the tensioner is oil feed, Its behind and below the oil filter housing area, what does performing automatic calibration on 2014 BMW 428xi sulve mean? Wont restart. Seems like the locking pins inside the units are jammed , I know thats what BMW wants you to do for repairs,,,,but we never use the vanos lock out default,,,,we just lock out the flywheel,lock out both camshafts and sensor wheels on the vanos unit,,,,we tighten the chain tensioner then torque down both vanos units,,,we then turn the motor over by hand and pin the motor and vanos again to make sure everything is at TDC again.,,,I hope this helps. Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck You think is this something related to eccentric shaft sensor on occasionally control cut off rise... Exactly right well, you could, but bmw n20 131501 is not in any way affiliated Bayerische! 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