How about getting your moneys worth? FORT WAYNE, Ind. All rights reserved. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. Its not clear how? Is that also speculation? It says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. I just like to take this opportunity to thank the Mods in making this subreddit Delphimurders readable again and to the posters who post informative, well thought out COMMENTS. I really dont see a motive for RL. You mentioned that the police are allowed to lie to the public. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Not important? And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LEs investigation of him. One daughter, estranged. Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. Theres only one parent. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. Link to cold case Linda Weldy http://whatsnewlaporte.com/2014/02/24/cold-case-killing-of-linda-weldy-10-still-waiting-to-be-solved-can-you-help/, A thread has already been posted about Police Scanners. Lawyered up, not talking. This is at a time when he and his alibi place him out of town in a nearby city. However, it is still not clear that Mr. X did this on his own or if someone helped him. Mr Xs alibi is it true that the person who is now deceased is a police officer who committed suicide? That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. The doc is his property. Delphi residents and those closely following the case were stunned when, on April 22, 2019, the Indiana State Police announced the case was moving in a "new direction." Law enforcement released a very brief video clip of the main suspect walking along the bridge, and a revamped version of the audio clip released in 2017 that said, "Guys . If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. The. Guilty until proven innocent! Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. Every podcast is all about them! However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. Unverified. These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. Knives. Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. Every firearm will leave all sorts of markings on the bullets that you put into that weapon, Goodpaster said. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Hello Jacqui. Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. Suspect: Ok, you got me. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the two girls killed in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. PERU, Ind. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. He has connections with current LE officers. I dont care what anybodys age is. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. Delphi Murders: 5 Years Later, Victim's Sister Clinging to Hope That Killer Will Be Caught Kline allegedly told police it was a "coincidence that I happened to talk to her," according to the . Nobody has been arrested in the case but details have slowly been revealed about. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. They say they want to preserve the integrity of the investigation. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. The other person involved that is kin to this POI. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set. Here is a previous episode on the case. Authorities are now looking if he could be connected to the 2017 killings of two teenagers, known as the Delphi murders. X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. Thanks. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana . 1950 brazil world cup tragedy. That would have been quite a problem. These two men, driving in the younger mans black truck with pink stripe, were witnessed in the vicinity on or near the cemetery road at approximately 5:30 AM February 14, 2017. I see that you have replied to someone after mine, I am genuinely curious about this difference in graduation dates and would like to chat. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. Hes a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Please check out my YouTube channel, MsPsychic Sleuth. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. Anyway, where you at with this case now? Stop. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case Mr. X. And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. Now, for the first time, we're hearing from the man whose pictures were stolen and used by that "anthony_shots . He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! . Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter, handicrafting wooden signs. One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. It is high time this comes to fruition. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. Pay no attention to the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. The motive was sexual. I have an official case document here in my hand. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. Why dont you do a show on our theories. IUPUI forensic science professor provides context on Delphi murders investigation, Cardinal Robert McElroy to speak at Notre Dame Forum event on war, peace, Reward offered after bald eagle killed in southern Indiana, 20-year-old man shot after allegedly striking 18-year-old woman with car in Elkhart, Eli Lilly to cap out-of-pocket cost of insulin at $35 a month, Sectional boys basketball highlights 2/28. The girls took photos while strolling across the bridge, but as time passed and their family didnt hear from them, police were called for assistance. Thats because he was competition. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. If they tried to take it to court, I am almost certain that the judge would throw it out before it even got to the trial stage. Of course she did. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Yes, that is part of Leigh Kerrs testimony. Hi folks. The family knew something was wrong. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? I dont know if its in a garage, or the shed, perhaps? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9738939/Lori-Vallow-charged-conspiracy-commit-murder-death-fourth-husband-Arizona.html?fbclid=IwAR2haqAKhF0vqWzP2aKiNyDy14kIG7SCjPxtWVXndA3Dt49wvD5xXRByYT8. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. No, the other girl was also having sex with males and she also had a boyfriend. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. Are you speculating? and our Id rather not look into the NHI* (no humans involved) cases in the ghetto where one group of scumbags shoots up some other group of scumbags. I will say that Libbys birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. Thats very embarrassing. They have their own sources. Newly-obtained transcripts were released shortly after the fifth anniversary of the deaths of Abby Williams and Liberty German, two young girls who were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. Pretty soon these fucking machines that are dumber than rocks are going to be making all sorts of unappealable decisions about our lives because the capitalists are too greedy to hire a real human to do the job, so they buy a machine instead. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. Although no arrests have been made in the case, the transcripts detail information that puts the case back in the national spotlight. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. Hes innocent. Tip Line: (765) 822-3535. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. We all stumble over our words sometimes. 9) He has killed before. They always came home. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. Was he set up to take the fall? Is there a place on your site where you can pay/register? I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? What are they doing to move this forward? This claims are quite dubious and we dont suggest anyone put any weight into them. I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. Reminiscent of a small hatchet, not a typical knife. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. LE still has access to the conviction. The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killers clothes in blood. Who are you friends with. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. If this main POI isnt the bridge guy, he is definitely, without a doubt in my mind, involved in the murders of Abby and Libby in some form or fashion. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. Ill leave it at that. He took a piece of jewelry from Libby as a trophy thats also buried. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? Well, hes the right age anyway. Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly. Kelsi German has been cleared. So when you are saying, No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents, do you think its possible that a team of 230 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? Your email address will not be published. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? How many times has he been cleared? Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. Answers to questions about my credibility. Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. Thank you for stopping by the site. Dime a dozen. Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. Unfortunately, its not free. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. LE asked him to move the vehicle. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. He has not been charged in the Delphi case. Days later the State of Indiana issues him a lifetime concealed carry permit signed by Superintendent Doug Carter. They say a forensic analysis found the round had been cycled through a gun belonging to Allen. That looks suspicious as Hell. He was living in the Evansdale area at the time. I am sure he was asked. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. to find the killer or team of killers. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. Thanks, Mike! I hope he doesnt read here but I knew a Facebook group mod who was in contact with him and she felt he was either gay, an effeminate man, or a Beta, as she put it. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. In February 2017, they were about halfway through the eighth . According to News Nation, The Murder Sheet podcast obtained transcripts of an interview between a possible suspect, Kegan Kline, and Indiana investigators. Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. What time was RL on video eating pizza? They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. Sister of Delphi Murder Victim Is Studying Criminal Justice to Help Homicide Victims' Families The 2017 killings of Libby German and Abby Williams are the subject of tonight's episode of People . Just thought I would draw your attention to it. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. Found Deceased IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #162. He met few if any of those girls he was talking to. Got it? There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. Also, I dont know what to make of this. The police cant prevent private citizens from searching on their own, and its my understanding that many did. Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. Recently, multiple local sources with knowledge have opened up to share that this was a hit ordered by a very powerful businessman who runs a criminal operation that some say is akin to a mafia-style family outfit. Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. Hello, i live in cedar rapids , ia. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). What is this guy, another Zodiac? It is sad to think of unsolved murders like Linda Welby, Flora girls and Abby and Libby. Robert Lindsay isnt just one guy. Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. This proves more of Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girls phones after the crime. Thats because they havent been told shit. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Both investigators were women. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. Theres just journalists. Updated: 7:18 PM EST December 20, 2021. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. 4-lane highway. Newly-obtained transcripts were released shortly after the fifth anniversary of the deaths of Abby Williams and Liberty German, two young girls who were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. Becky Patty: Obviously theyre not accusing her of the homicides! Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. I do not know why RRB is? Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. Also theres only one way for LE to know that BG filmed his crime if the rumors about sending video of the crime to the girls phones afterwards is true. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? Theyre not that common. Thats why he has those Packers boots on. Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. Its at his home on a shelf! Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Mr. Lindsay, She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. LE thinks he stashed his phone at the CPS building during the murders. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. This may extend to age 15. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. For one, its a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and I was trained to be a journalist I have a BA in Journalism and worked as an editor of a large magazine, among other things. White scarf covering the lower half of his face. Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. Would love to join the private group. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? Just before Abby Williams and Libby German were killed in the Delphi murders on February 13, 2017, German captured chilling footage of the man who was about to take their lives. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. We would say it is low. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. I cant see where this is! The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. Try harder. Give it a rest, dammit! I see T. Neighboring state. Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers. Delphi murders: Family of James Chadwell says he is 'absolutely capable' of killing 2 teens He reappeared on radar last month when charged with kidnapping, attempted murder of 9-year-old. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. We believe he staged the crime with these elaborate props either before or after the crime from this exact location. The guy that is making those videos about Mr X, and the guy by the name of Derek godsey. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. I doubt it. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Court documents newly obtained by WDRB link a man in jail with social media accounts police are investigating in connection with the murders of two young girls in. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. 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